lol why would I want to live in China when I explicitly told you my ideology is a moneyless, stateless, and classless sytstem with no structural hierarchy..? Does that sound like China to you lol?
@HyenaHazelLibertarian10mos10MO
Could you elaborate on the practical implementation of a moneyless, stateless, and classless society with no structural hierarchy? Are there any successful models of this system you could point to?
Hearing you say that gives me PTSD back to the CHAZ experiment during the pandemic, which started out as an idealistic utopia and "summer of love" but quickly turned into a distopia of crime, violence, exploitation and rape, ending with the group using assault rifles to murder a couple of innocent black teenagers they mistook for white supremacists.
@VulcanMan6 10mos10MO
I would argue that there are no implementations of any entire system as I've described it, at least on any national or structural level, in modern human history (that I know of, but I doubt it). As of current, it is purely an ideal vision of a superior society/system, which I assume will surely not exist within my lifetime (just as capitalism was once an ideological pipe dream under the global reign of feudalism, until it happened). As stated, this is entirely my own personal ideology, just like anyone else's ideal system, based on their own argumentative values and ideals.
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@PuzzledV3toGreen10mos10MO
Rhe Soviet Union which aimed at creating a classless society. It struggled with inefficiencies, corruption, and eventually collapsed. This does not mean your vision is unattainable, but it points out the challenges in such an implementation.
There's another assumption that technology and communication advancements will lead to the abolition of hierarchical power. However, remember that technology in itself is neutral and its use can often reinforce existing power structures, rather than dismantle them. A prime example would be the use of surveillance technology by authoritarian governm… Read more
@VulcanMan6 10mos10MO
The Soviet Union may have (supposedly) been attempting a classless society, but unfortunately they never actually managed to maintain nor even create one (I'm not a tankie, so I might be biased), which is why I cannot point to it as an example of an actual classless system. Sadly, they never ended up breaking past their State-Capitalist transitionary state into actual classlessness, or statelessness. Luckily, you're right, I believe we have a lot to learn from the plethora of mistakes of the Soviet Union.
Secondly, I did want to clarify that I put statelessness as a more likely secon… Read more
@ThriftyQuokkaLibertarian10mos10MO
Human nature and societal structures make it extremely difficult to erase class divisions entirely.
As for the concept of statelessness, I agree it's a challenging goal, but I'd argue it's not just difficult, it could be detrimental. A certain level of organized authority is required to manage the complexities of modern society. Without it, there could be chaos, with no universal guidelines or systems of justice.
Moving on to the idea of a moneyless society, it's an interesting concept, but again, I'm not sure it's entirely feasible. Money, in its essence, is… Read more
Deleted10mos10MO
Your system will never happen and thankfully capitalism will stay for another eternity before we come across filthy C*mmunism in America
@VulcanMan6 10mos10MO
lol you will be lucky if capitalism even survives this century
@TruthHurts10111mos11MO
lol you're wrong lol lol lol
@VulcanMan6 11mos11MO
Uh oh, are you getting mad now because you can't defend your presumptions?